Why Spider-Man Fights Like That | Fighting Styles in Games Explained

Why Spider-Man Fights Like That | Fighting Styles in Games Explained

[Wrestling Noises]
Every body knows the story of spider-man. Nerdy orphan from queens,
radioactive spider, superpowers. But here’s a question most of overlook. Why is that when peter parker, a scrawny nerd
becomes spider-man, a buff superhero he fights like this. In the case of the new game from insomniac,
spiderman’s fighting style appears to be a hybrid of three influences. The first influence gives us acrobatic dodges
like this, and dramatic strikes like this. These techniques are borrowed from capoeira,
an afro-brazilian form of martial arts that’s part dance, part game, and part legit head-rocking
fighting style. Capoeira is all about narrowly avoiding enemy
attacks and seamlessly transitioning into your own,
and contemporary styles are especially acrobatic. The flashy, fluid movements have made capoeira
fighters an exciting addition to action films and games. The Protector featured a very dramatic capoeira-infused
showdown between Tony Jaa and Lateef Crowder. And Eddy Gordo’s been repping capoeira in
Tekken since 1997. But capoeira’s not all flash. These unpredictable kicks can come from unexpected
angles at frightening speed, and have given us a few brutal MMA knockouts,
like this one. Spiderman borrows a number of techniques from
Capoeira. He moves backwards away from danger with the
Macaco Em Pe, and lashes out a Martelo de Negativa kick. While he borrows a handful of specific techniques
from capoeira, the influence on his movement style runs deeper. Like a master capoeira practictioner, his
stance is low and mobile. He rarely plants his feet to execute straightforward,
thrusting strikes. instead, he’s constantly spinning- using centrifugal
force to turn his feet and fists into high-speed bludgeons. Borrowing from capoeira makes sense for an
agile, graceful hero like spiderman. But it’s not the only fighting style Spiderman
borrows from. And I’ll tell you about the other one, if
you’re ready… [RANDY SAVAGE VOICE] BONESAWWW IS READYYYYYY Spidey’s very first comic book appearance
featured a matchup in the squared circle against one Crusher Hogan. (renamed bonesaw mcgraw when famously portrayed
by Randy Savage in the 2002 film directed by sam raimi starring Tobey Maguire. Spider-Man: with great power comes great responsibility) Insomniac’s Spiderman hints at his days
moonlighting in the wrestling ring with this flyer in his apartment. But the wrestling moves Spiderman rocks in
the upcoming game come from a specific discipline of pro wrestling: lucha libre. This is Ophidian. He’s been performing and teaching Lucha Libre
for 10 years. Lucha Libre is a variant of professional wrestling. It is a very acrobatic, stylistic, high flying
version of what we consider pro wrestling in america- but based out of mexico. It’s full of colorful characters, and masks
like you see on myself. It has a very Super Hero aesthetic. Lucha Librea was popularized in the US largely
by WCW luchadores like Psicosis, La Parka, and most of all, Rey Mysterio Junior. Much like Spiderman, Rey was a slender little
dude in a world of Giants. His in-ring style leveraged momentum, speed,
and high-flying lucha techniques to tell the story of an undersized hero using skill to
overcome his stature. Spidey busts out a handful of lucha techniques
including dropsaults, headscissor takedowns, and perhaps the nastiest-looking one – the
poisoned hurricanrana. The poisoned rana is a variant of a very popular
lucha libre move known as the hurricanrana. When sitting on your opponent’s shoulders
you have to be able to swing your body underneath them and land in a position where you yourself
don’t get knocked out. That means being able to bridge mid-air to
land in between your opponents legs so that they can travel backwards over the top of
you. And to have that kind of aim and precision
takes years to teach. While spider-man is definitely strong for
his size, his character has never been about raw power. He’s quick and he’s nimble, and he’s lithe,
which are the qualities you need to do what he’s doing. I don’t think it would make sense for spider-man,
given his size and weight, to do anything but Lucha Libre. So drawing from Lucha Libre makes sense. It’s a style of pro wrestling that makes you
believe, or want to believe that a 5-6, 130 pound guy like Rey Mysterio could take down
the Big Show. Spiderman doesn’t always have the strength
to overcome his enemies, but he’ll always have the agility of a lucha libre superstar. Hell, he’s even got the mask. He’s also got a half-century of comic books
to his name, which is more than enough time to have established a distinct style and persona. Spidey is synonymous with dramatic, acrobatic,
and extremely bendy poses… … and the influence on Insomniac’s spider-man
is clear. Spidey will rush through the motion of a move,
then linger in a trademark pose at the end. Other times, the game will actually slow down
to catch him in a comic book panel come to life, showing that in addition to smartly
borrowing from other fighting styles, Insomniac has a lot of reverence for spidey’s source
material. there’s no logical reason for spider-man to
have this mishmash of powers- but they all have something in common a sense of fun, and
a pleasure of movement that’s quintessentially spider-man

99 thoughts on “Why Spider-Man Fights Like That | Fighting Styles in Games Explained

  1. Wow fantastic video!! Kinda surprised you guys even nailed the capoeira moves down to their actual names, which can be a little oscure to find out! Great video!

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  3. Dear Patrick Gill.
    For your next video I would love to know all about the fighting style used by Nintendo Heart Throb Toad from the hit Game Cube game "Mario Kart: Double Dash". Just how does he throw those bananas so good? I'm sure you'll agree this warrants thorough investigation.
    Much <3

  4. He said a hybrid of three influences…i'm counting just two…or was pro wrestling counted separate from lucha libre?

  5. Sooo, he never used Taekwondo? I was right about my theory on the two martial arts but I thought he'd also used Taekwondo and also with his upbeat and fun personality a fan or supporter rather would also assume that he'd also fight break dancing like using the coin drop move or the windmills to attack his opponent and very nice vid I needed to know for sure I subscribe and show my pals this video cuz they love Parker as well. 👍

  6. Great Video! Very Educational!

    Dig into the following heroes' fighting styles next:

    Captain America
    Black Panther
    The Winter Soldier

  7. For those who are saying he mentioned acrobatics as a fight style. He actually mentioned it with capoeria as capoeria is a martial art combined with dance, acrobatics and movements.

  8. Eddy Gordo introduced me to capoeira in Tekken 3, been a big fan of it ever since and is my favorite style in Tekken.

  9. I thinking that this is how they should approach it in the next Spider-Man movies. These fighting styles are perfect for the wall crawler. And seeing him fight like this in films with him shooting his webs and kicking and punching bad dudes all at the same time acrobatically would be cool.

  10. There's something kinda satisfying about the most famous comic book character in the world having his iconic fighting style have roots in Brazil and Mexico.

  11. Spideys fighting style is "I was a teenager with no friends when I got super powers" hence him doing whatever a spider can.

  12. His fighting style in the game consists of:

    Capoeira (Base Style)
    Muay Thai
    Professional Wrestling
    (With elements of)
    Shaolin Kung Fu

  13. Wouldn't wearing a mask and using a pop filter be a bit redundant?
    Wouldn't the mask act as one, itself?
    Yes, that is my takeaway

  14. Capoera was inca too not just afro.way people allwas leave the glory off my native people out.but i love superheros

  15. I am sure you’ve gotten this request 1000 times by now, but I just wanted to say that I think diving into Batman’s fighting style from Arkham knight could be really really cool. I haven’t played Spiderman yet but I’ve heard people multiple times compare it to Arkham knight so I think it could be fun to dive into Arkham knight:)

  16. well spiderman himself said in this game that he learned how to fight from watching movies, for specifics, he said it in the last dlc when he fights with silver sable

  17. His fighting style is so quick and fluid bc he needs to be able to avoid attacks. Despite being insanely strong, spider-man isn’t bullet proof.

  18. This is what makes Spider-Man one of the most greatest fighters in the Marvel universe

    He’s right up there with Black Panther, Captain America, Daredevil, and quite possibly Iron Fist

  19. Spiderman is actually almost always 50× stronger than his opponents. Dude lifts tanks with one finger. He has to pull all of his punches otherwise he'd one shot kill everyone he hits.

  20. Love capoeira. Had a teacher who use to teach it a few kids during an afterschool program In middle school, honestly kinda mad I didnt take it seriously back then

  21. I just thought of this since Spiderman leaves behind his webs doesnt that mean
    that someone has to clean it up?

    Lets say he shoots his web at a…ummmm business building wouldnt that mean a janitor or someone has to clean it up ?

    (Spider-Man is a messy hero i guess??? 🤔)

  22. "A sense of fun, and a pleasure of movement that is quintessentially Spider-Man"
    That's one of the best lines I've ever heard…

  23. He doesn't do Way of the Spider in this game. This is Spider-Man at his most core, high school/university days. I understand they had him learn martial arts in the comics, but that's not Spider-Man at his most core. He'd be way overpowered then. Plus, this game wouldn't feel like a Spider-Man game, it's just feel like a heavily modified Batman Arkham game with Spider-Man as the main character.

  24. Late comment, but this was a very very cool video, if Pat wants to do more of this, all of the characters in the Arkham series have very distinctive fighting styles that would probably make for a fascinating exercise to dissect.

  25. Was the 3rd influence… the comics?! Weren't you already trying to dissect the reason Spider man fights like that in the comics also?! Am I missing something here?

  26. I mean, Spider-Man is inhumanly strong. It is said multiple times that he holds back so as not to kill people, so the argument that he uses Lucha Libre to fight because he can't overpower his enemies is kind of a false flag. He can do it easily, so it's more likely that he does it because of the acrobatic spectacle. He has been known to sling insults and one liners all throughout fights, so he's not above using some over the top moves to throw his opponents off and confuse them.

  27. Spider Man should use Muay Thai IMO, solely because it's known as "The Art of Eight Limbs" due to the employment of elbow and knee strikes. Or maybe I just like puns too much.

  28. Wait, so your thesis is that in the Spider-Man game, Spider-Man's fighting style is a combination of three fighting styles and one of those fighting styles is Spider-Man's fighting style? I mean, you probably just could have said it was a combination of those two fighting styles and talked about the comic book influences separately.
    That may have made the video seem less cohesive, but at least then it wouldn't be thoroughly underwhelming when you get to the third one and you're like, "Oh, Spider-Man fights like Spider-man. Sure."

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